a new rendition of an old favourite: torture!

Oops, we did it again!

In the words of an old war hero who has not been "swiftboated" (lately), this whole issue of extracting information via "rendition"(Newspeak for torture) shouldn't be about who they are, but about who we are. Do we value our freedoms enough to do away with due process and lock away people for no other reason than we suspect they might be up to something? Can we realize the retarded logic in that previous question?

The "war on terror" is hard enough without giving the other side such great material...If we are the good guys, we need to start behaving as such. The global terror network won't be ultimately defeated militarily, rather, it will be defeated through our persistance in sticking to our ideals of liberty and freedom. If we show the world we are willing to trade in these principles like so much used Geo Metro, then wouldn't they be fools to trust us?

The terrorist threats we face today are the result of scores of years of illadvised foreign policy, and will likely take at least that long to fix. The quicker we are to abandon what we stand for, the less secure our future will be. Or we could just keep running around fighting a near invisible enemy...ask the Redcoats how that went...